Find FORD Banks Power Performance Packages with V10 Engine Type and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing! The 460 does not make more power, nor more torque. And it certainly doesn't get better mileage. Also, 7.5L (460) is larger than the 6.8L V10. As for the Banks Power. Yes, it does work. But adds hp and torque all around. The stock V10 puts out ample torque on its own, its really the transmission programming that is as fault for not using that torque.
Part# UPFORD - V10 Power Upgrade Description: UltraPower Custom Tuning is hands down the most cost effective and noticeable performance modification you can make to your Ford 6.8L V10 powered RV. From the factory, the V10 engine's power is de-tuned and the constant transmission shifting is annoying. One of the most noticeable differences from stock will be the elimination of instant downshifts that occur at even the slightest of hills. Your RV will now be able to maintain higher gears without the unnecessary screaming of the engine! This alone makes a great deal of difference in driving comfort.
Throttle response is greatly improved and merging onto the freeway will be much less stressful. I'm in the process of purchasing a new 2018 RV that has a Ford Triton V10 engine. Will 'tuning' the engine with this device/software void the Ford factory warranty? If I need to take the RV into a Ford service center, do I need to return it to 'stock' before taking the RV in for service?
Would it be better to wait until the engine is no longer under warranty by Ford before utilizing this device? I would really like to get the benefits of this device without having to wait for the Ford factory warranty to expire. BTW, I live in a state that has NO vehicle emissions inspection requirement.
Thanks in advance for any info/suggestions you can provide. No it will not automatically void your Ford warranty. First of all, when you tune yourvehicle, the SCT Tuner stores the stock file onto the device. When youare going to go in for Warranty work, you can return the computer tostock settings. The SCT tuner, unlike other brands, leaves absolutely nofootprint in the PCM history.
In order to deny any warranty repair thedealership has to prove without a doubt that the Programmer was thecause of the damage. We can thank the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act forthis.If you are overly concerned with this topic, talk to your dealer. Ultimately they are the ones that will make the decision. It's our understanding that by paying the return postage cost back to you that the final product you ship to us will have all of the correct information loaded into it. If we're correct, then we can skip the down loading process? We're working with a 2019 Four Winds 31W coach and aren't overly impressed with the performance. We are 'old school'; change the distributor advance spring and a high performance electronic ignition module and hang on!!
Any improvement from stock would be welcomed.Thanks,David L. Cavin ( David L. The SCT X4 comes with pre-loaded tunes for many Ford vehicles, such as Mustangs, F-150's and Powerstrokes. The devices have a warning that they are not for use in California but that is simply because these pre-loaded tunes for other vehicles are not emissions compliant with California laws. We do not use these pre-loaded tunes for RV's so what we are loading into your engine computer is custom to the vehicle and will pass California emissions tests.Most folks can load the tuning themselves or have a friend help.
It only requires a Windows computer and an internet connection to download the tune. No special tools or mechanical abilities are necessary. Ultra RV iscommitted to providing quality custom tuning that is safe to use.
Our custom tuningdoes not cause damage to a vehicle when used as intended and should not voidyour vehicle’s manufacturer’s warranty. However, the reality is that manydealerships have been known to improperly void warranties on vehicles that useaftermarket products as a matter of policy. This applies to those aftermarketproducts that produce horsepower, such as performance enhancement “chips,”modified intake manifolds, or aftermarket exhaust systems, regardless ofproduct brand.Consumersof aftermarket products are protected by the Federal Magnusson-Moss WarrantyAct.
The Act provides that if something breaks on your vehicle and you take itin for warranty repair, the dealer must honor your warranty unless whatevermodifications you have added to your vehicle directly caused the problemin question.In orderto understand your rights under the Federal Magnuson-Moss WarrantyAct, please see below excerpt.Whenaccessorizing your vehicle with aftermarket parts, your warranty claim cannotbe automatically denied, nor can your warranty be voided, if you installnon-OEM parts in your vehicle. The burden is on the dealer to prove theaftermarket parts caused the failure.
For example, if your windshield wipermotors fail, your vehicle’s warranty claim can’t be denied because youinstalled aftermarket performance programmer, tuner, chip, etc. Similarly, if awheel bearing fails or a fan belt snaps and you have an aftermarket exhaustinstalled, the dealership would have to prove the exhaust system caused thebearing failure or the belt to snap in order to deny a warranty claim. In thesetypes of scenarios, the dealership should have no reason to deny your claims.Inaddition to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, you also have SEMA (SpecialtyEquipment Market Association) working to protect your rights. Because SEMArepresents U.S. Aftermarket wholesalers, retailers, distributors andmanufacturers, they often keep car manufacturers in check by supportinglegislation that prevents dealership service providers from denying warrantycoverage. This means dealerships have become less stringent when it comes toaftermarket parts that modify performance or suspension.
We are looking at your performance chip for our 2016 Class C Forester with a V-10 engine. The problem has been there since we purchased the unit new. Under increased throttle applications the engine downshifts and the engine surges and very slugging. We are presently on a road trip in British Columbia Canada and in the mountains its really bad. My question is will your performance chip help correct this problem hope to hear from you asap before we head back to Ontario at the end of August. ( Harvey Brillant, ).
Hi:This is our first venture into a class a motorhome. I have always used a tuner in previous class c M/H one a 7.3 2002 and the second a v-10 2011 two valve.The first was a5 star tuner and the second banks. I agree with your comment that the 5 star was better than banks.So my question is as I still have the banks tuner and you said you use the same type thus can you send me the program once I send all info required etc via computer which I can upload to my programmer. This would avoid a lot of issues as I am in canada thus being much easier for me.
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This would be after payment for your custom tune to my specific unit. I can go and get the vin and anything else you need to start the process if this will work.Thanks Blair ( Blair Bourchier, ).
Hi Newbee,Actually, I am a newbee also. Just joined last month and decided to log on today. I also had a question regarding the Banks Power Pack System. Only my question was about the proper gear to tow in. A little about me. My husband installed the Banks on our 1998 Bounder and he loved it.
We traveled to the Maritimes and across the Rockies and never had a problem with power. There were times when we were able to pass deisel rigs on inclines. Well, he passed away in 2002 without showing me how to use the gearing. Sometimes when I am towing, I feel like I am in the wrong gear. So I was going to see if anyone knew the correct gear to tow in. I am not a mechanic obviously, but remembering what my husband said about the Banks, I would recommend it to anyone.
He was a very smart man when it came to mechanics. I hope you get an answer to your question.
And if you do, maybe you could pass some info on to me. I am considering installing the banks power pack system on my 05 Bounder (Ford V10). I pull a jeep wrangler and the Bounder struggles on hills when pulling the jeep. Has anybody had one installed and, if so, how would you rate the performance/pulling ability increase.Last month I inquired about the Banks for my '06 V-10.
The tech told me he would probably get fired for telling me but it would not make that much of a difference for my rig. He said it made a world of difference for trucks pulling trailers etc though. Hi Newbee,Actually, I am a newbee also.
Just joined last month and decided to log on today. I also had a question regarding the Banks Power Pack System. Only my question was about the proper gear to tow in. A little about me. My husband installed the Banks on our 1998 Bounder and he loved it. We traveled to the Maritimes and across the Rockies and never had a problem with power.
There were times when we were able to pass deisel rigs on inclines. Well, he passed away in 2002 without showing me how to use the gearing. Sometimes when I am towing, I feel like I am in the wrong gear. So I was going to see if anyone knew the correct gear to tow in. I am not a mechanic obviously, but remembering what my husband said about the Banks, I would recommend it to anyone. He was a very smart man when it came to mechanics. I hope you get an answer to your question.
And if you do, maybe you could pass some info on to me. Good luck.Your automatic transmission should make the correct choices for gears whether you're towing or not. Just don't allow the engine to bog down.
In other words, keep the RPM up when going uphill. If your Bounder is on a Ford chassis, your tranny has a towing mode - use it.
Last month I inquired about the Banks for my '06 V-10. The tech told me he would probably get fired for telling me but it would not make that much of a difference for my rig.
He said it made a world of difference for trucks pulling trailers etc though.I got the whole Banks system installed on my '08 Coachmen Concorde class C, 31' triple slide, last December. I don't know which 'tech' you were talking to but my experience with the Banks factory in Azusa, CA, including the Banks family themselves, was simply outstanding.
Not only did the installation go flawlessly and on schedule, but I am getting twice the advertised fuel economy improvement and the power is simply amazing. I tow a 5000 lb car and tow dolly combination.
When a company underpromises and overdelivers, I tend to be really, really happy. I am getting twice the advertised fuel economy improvement and the power is simply amazing.What ARE your before and after MPG's- I assume these were averages over several tanks and under similar driving conditions?You say the power is simply amazing. By chance did you do any timed zero to highway speed before and after?In general, older engines experiences more improvement by tuning such as Banks. In more recent times, the chassis makers have done quite a lot better job of tuning intake and exhaust right from the factory.Thanks. FACTS are scarce here.Brett Wolfe. I have a horror story concerning Banks Power Systems.
Discovering a cracked exhaust manifold on my 1995 454 Chevrolet Winnabago I decided to repair problem with a Banks system. Cost $2299.59 and $865.00 for installation.total $3164.59. Yes, this was a lot of lipstick on a pig but as we age we don't necessarly get smarter!Banks salesman Alex sent me to a company named Animal Enterprises,Inc in Ft Meyers, Fl for the installment of their equipment. After three days the job was complete and I set off expecting to enjoy power and economy. What I found was a broken temperature gauge and oil leaking from my oil pan where the dip stick once entered to check the oil!!This is where the horror entered the picture. Animal wasn't interested in my problem and threatened me bodily, by phone, not face to face.
Banks provided no help what-so-ever except Alex did listen paitently to my phone calls. This could now become a long ugly story but let me be short and say the temp gauge was fixed but it's still is (almost) impossible to check my oil. Alex is the only contact I was able to make with Banks as Alex's manager would never accept or return my calls.What did I gain by all this upsetting event.not much really. Let's face the fact that what you get for $3164.59 is a set of exhaust headers, new exhaust pipe, more free flowing muffler, and a K&N Air cleaner. Do you think this will make a big difference? My experience with applied math is that I will pay for this system when my motorhome has been driven 240,506.91 miles!!Buy a set of headers from your local speed shop, a new muffler form your exhaust shop, a K&N air filter, and for about $500 you will have the same system plus have your local muffler shop install everything for another $500 and BINGO Banks power for 1/3 the cost. AND you won't have to deal with Animal Enterprises, Inc and Jeff the' I'm gonna punch your lights out' installer!!!
I have experience with both Ford 460 and Ford V10 310 HP.I had Camping World install for the 460 in a Coachmen 35ft Mirada. I was happy with it completely except I DID NOT get the increase in MPG they suggested. Why Not, since I had more power I used it and using more power also uses more gas.The V10 was is in a Winnebago 35U installed at the Banks factory in Azusa, CA. The complete system includes a Transcom and an Automind chips.
They do 2 units each morning at the factory. I was happy with the work. It was about $3100.We drove back to the High Desert (Hesperia) It struggled to climb Cajon Pass and the next morning it was hard to start and kept dying like it was flooding the engine. After a few tries it started and ran fine until I went down in a valley and up the other side. It died at the top. A few more tries and it ran ok.I called Banks and they told me the Automind chip was defective. They sent a new one over night to a dealer near me and they installed it the next day.
Camping World installed Banks PowerPack on my previous MH, '92 Airstream 31ft w/454 Chev power plant. The performance improvement was very good, especially on smaller hills. Before Banks the transmission would downshift frequently to keep speed. After Banks the coach maintained speed without downshifting. Milage improved slightly, but my reason for installing Banks was for increased power, and it delivered. Also, the engine ran cooler after Banks.
Very satisfied with Banks and the installation by Camping World. I would recommend it based upon my experience.
I recently added the Banks Power Pack to my 8.1 Chevy Workhorse and love it. The mileage has increased about 1.7 mpg, but more importantly the performance is incredible.
On my recent trip back from Oregon I averaged 10.7 miles per gallon.I just went to Pismo Beach and climbed the 7% grade there and went up that hill at 55 mph all the way with no difficulties. The passing of other vehicles without having to downshift is remarkable and painless, not to mention getting on the freeways and getting up to speed quickly.I am so happy with this set up, I wish I had installed it 3 years ago. The exhaust has a very nice healthy tone to it without being obnoxious or loud.I was amazed while at Pismo Beach that there were at least 10 other motor homes that had the Banks Power and the few I spoke with all were extremely pleased. Most stated they did not have it installed to obtain better gas mileage, but for the overall performance.I highly recommend this to everyone.
Oh, my Son-in-law has this on his Ford 3/4 ton pickup for towing his 5th wheel and is also very pleased with the additional power and performance.Good Luck to youKirk Shhores. I have experience with both Ford 460 and Ford V10 310 HP.I had Camping World install for the 460 in a Coachmen 35ft Mirada. I was happy with it completely except I DID NOT get the increase in MPG they suggested. Why Not, since I had more power I used it and using more power also uses more gas.The V10 was is in a Winnebago 35U installed at the Banks factory in Azusa, CA. The complete system includes a Transcom and an Automind chips.
They do 2 units each morning at the factory. I was happy with the work. It was about $3100.We drove back to the High Desert (Hesperia) It struggled to climb Cajon Pass and the next morning it was hard to start and kept dying like it was flooding the engine. After a few tries it started and ran fine until I went down in a valley and up the other side. It died at the top. A few more tries and it ran ok.I called Banks and they told me the Automind chip was defective. They sent a new one over night to a dealer near me and they installed it the next day.
I am considering installing the banks power pack system on my 05 Bounder (Ford V10). I pull a jeep wrangler and the Bounder struggles on hills when pulling the jeep. Has anybody had one installed and, if so, how would you rate the performance/pulling ability increase?Banks power installed last year.
I also have a Ford V10 and this upgade was an excellent choose.hen I was climbing a mountian and got stuck behind a slow truck I could not my speed higher than 35MPH. Terefore I was stuck there until we reached the top. Now I don't have that problem and I can now maintian a speed of 50 MPH. So I am very pleaed with the extra Hore power in gives. I own a 35ft 2002 LaPalma with Workhorse 8.1L.
After talking with techs and MH owners for almost 4 years I had a Banks package installed in 2006. What I wanted was more power on hills, cooler operating temp, less shifting on the Allison and maybe a little better milage, but gas milage was not the top priority. Also, a couple of times earlier I had experienced some sparkplug wire heating problems.
Even though Workhorse gave me great support on this issue it was not completely solved.First trip out with Banks I noticed more power when climbing the Blue Mts out of Pendleton, Ore. I climbed that hill at least 10mph faster then before and then for the rest of the trip South, I noticed much less shifting in the tranny. The milage at first didn't seem to be an improvement until I realized that it was more consistent when towing my CRV then before. I was now getting 8mpg on a regular basis instead of part of the time. Now I don't know where all this talk of 10mpg is coming from because I have never been able to achieve that at all even when not towing, but I have been able to get 9mpg at times when not towing. Another bonus I was hoping for was no more sparkplug wire burnup problems. Well I been running the same plugwires now for 3 years with no evidence of heat damage.Overall, I am very pleased with Banks and all the tech support from all sources.
As far as justifying this purchase, you can't, the pay back is way down the road. The payback I am getting now is a better overall Motorhome to travel in and that's what I wanted. Besides, who can really justify owning a MotorHome, you do it because you want to. In March 2000 I had the Banks System with Transcommand installed on my 1999 National RV Dolphin on a Ford V-10. Although I was told not to expect any change in my mpg (at that time Banks was saying there probably would be no change) I did have an increase in mpg. The increase in power was great.on hills where I normally spent a good deal of time in first gear, I was now able to stay in third gear 80% of the time.
On smaller hills where I would have to go out of overdrive before Banks, the MH would now stay in overdrive. The power alone was well worth the money and the increase in mileage was a plus. I have traveled in my Dolphin to all of the lower 48 states as well as all but the two middle provinces of Canada so I feel that my Banks System was given a good testing. To this day I still have no complaints about the cost or the performance. I feel the unit has more than paid for itself.Chris R. This is to all of you considering to purchase and install the Banks Power Pack System.This was the best investment I made for my 2005 Winnebago Sightseer 29R.
I have a 2004 Ford V-10 chassis. It was sadly lacking power even before I purchased a 2007 4 door Jeep Wrangler to tow. I had the entire package installed at Camping World in Henderson, NV. I did have the transmission module installed also. It does everything that Banks said it would in their advertising. A recent trip thru Denver on I-70 was proof enough for me.
I feel the extra power gave me the safety factor that I was looking for. The increase in fuel economy is the frosting on the cake. It was not cheap, but well worth the price.
Finally, the folks at Camping World are the best when it comes to after market toys.George M. Rbuzz95,What a horror story and with an oil leak that continually rubs salt into the open wound.Here is what I would do to fix the oil leak:1: Go to my local Ford dealer with VIN Number; Engine Year; etc. And purchase the 'O' ring that is probably missing at the bottom of the dip stick where it enters into the pan.2: Remove the dip stick tube; there is an attaching bolt at the bottom and the top.3: Check for the existing 'O' ring. If in removing the dip tube housing the 'O' ring is not on the tube, feel inside the area where the tube inserts and see if the 'O' ring is stuck inside. During the original installation procedure, the 'O' ring was probably stuck inside and when the dip tube was re-installed the 'O' ring dropped into the pan.I know this is not a job you will enjoy (I wouldn't) because this is something you paid hard cash for.
But I personally would feel much better it this was my oil leak and 'I' fixed it when the 'SOB' did not do the job right in the first place.Hope this is the solution - if not, I tried and really feel bad for you as the rest of the group does. Hurt one of us and you hurt us all.Richard Dahl F Dynamax 'Isata 250SL'Valley Springs, CA. Rbuzz95,What a horror story and with an oil leak that continually rubs salt into the open wound.Here is what I would do to fix the oil leak:1: Go to my local Ford dealer with VIN Number; Engine Year; etc. And purchase the 'O' ring that is probably missing at the bottom of the dip stick where it enters into the pan.2: Remove the dip stick tube; there is an attaching bolt at the bottom and the top.3: Check for the existing 'O' ring. If in removing the dip tube housing the 'O' ring is not on the tube, feel inside the area where the tube inserts and see if the 'O' ring is stuck inside. During the original installation procedure, the 'O' ring was probably stuck inside and when the dip tube was re-installed the 'O' ring dropped into the pan.I know this is not a job you will enjoy (I wouldn't) because this is something you paid hard cash for.
But I personally would feel much better it this was my oil leak and 'I' fixed it when the 'SOB' did not do the job right in the first place.Hope this is the solution - if not, I tried and really feel bad for you as the rest of the group does. Hurt one of us and you hurt us all.Richard Dahl F Dynamax 'Isata 250SL'Valley Springs, CA. I appreciate your concern and detailed fix. My engine is a Chevrolet 454 so the trip to Ford might not help! Actually the tube that enters the pan was broken off from the pan and would not allow dip stick to enter pan. I did obtain the joint that allows stick to enter pan and replaced it.what I didn't do is get a new tube, which I should do.
The origional tube was so bent and twisted that it makes it difficult for the dip stick to pass thru and enter the pan to do it's job. I got lazy once the oil leak was stopped -and if you start the dip stick just right and push with your fingers it will, with some difficulty, go into the pan and do it's job. I also was concerned with the accuracy of the measurment after the hamfisted disfigurment of the tube so I did an oil change and remarked the dipstick to indicate the proper oil level.I was trying to point out the importance of the installation. Banks should have been more responsive to my plight as they sent me to this place to have their equipment installed on my motorhome.
I do have a case of the red - over the expense and quality of the installation! It also occurs to me that I should have investigated other alternatives to the Banks System.There are many good exhaust headers on the market. There are a number of good free flowing mufflers. Pipe is pipe and a K&N air filter can be purchased at any auto parts store, or WalMart! Any legitimate muffler shop could do this work for a third of the cost. Banks is not the only solution to the search for economy and power. I should have been smarter but the broken exhaust manifold, on the road, clouded my judgement.I have raced cars with SCCA and PCA for years so only have myself to blame!
Alterations are best checked on a dynamometer.it doesn't lie or use seat of the pants calculations. I recently purchased a chip for my old Porsche from a company in England, we ran some base line dyno runs on the engine installed the chip re-run the dyno test and discovered I had spent $500 to gain 2 HP at 5700 RPM another brilliant move by 'yours truly'!!regards, rbzz. I appreciate your concern and detailed fix.
My engine is a Chevrolet 454 so the trip to Ford might not help! Actually the tube that enters the pan was broken off from the pan and would not allow dip stick to enter pan.
I did obtain the joint that allows stick to enter pan and replaced it.what I didn't do is get a new tube, which I should do. The original tube was so bent and twisted that it makes it difficult for the dip stick to pass thru and enter the pan to do it's job. I got lazy once the oil leak was stopped -and if you start the dip stick just right and push with your fingers it will, with some difficulty, go into the pan and do it's job. I also was concerned with the accuracy of the measurement after the hamfisted disfigurement of the tube so I did an oil change and remarked the dipstick to indicate the proper oil level.I was trying to point out the importance of the installation. Banks should have been more responsive to my plight as they sent me to this place to have their equipment installed on my motorhome. I do have a case of the red - over the expense and quality of the installation!
It also occurs to me that I should have investigated other alternatives to the Banks System.There are many good exhaust headers on the market. There are a number of good free flowing mufflers. Pipe is pipe and a K&N air filter can be purchased at any auto parts store, or WalMart! Any legitimate muffler shop could do this work for a third of the cost. Banks is not the only solution to the search for economy and power. I should have been smarter but the broken exhaust manifold, on the road, clouded my judgement.I have raced cars with SCCA and PCA for years so only have myself to blame!
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Alterations are best checked on a dynamometer.it doesn't lie or use seat of the pants calculations. I recently purchased a chip for my old Porsche from a company in England, we ran some base line dyno runs on the engine installed the chip re-run the dyno test and discovered I had spent $500 to gain 2 HP at 5700 RPM another brilliant move by 'yours truly'!!regards, rbzzrbzz,Sorry about the Chev/Ford mix up; it is about as bad a reference as calling your Porsche a Volkswagen. Without the Banks engine chip and transmission chip, I feel about the same as you do and agree with most of what you have said.Where abouts are you located? What model Porsche? I used to race (Autocross) my Porsche 1959 'A' Coupe while a member of the PCA - Golden Gate Chapter San Francisco. Dropped out of the Club in 1966 when my job was taking me throughout the US for months on end. The car was still Concourse show able (including original bumpers) and was the only one still around that had the factory chrome Knock-Off spinner hubs when I sold it in 1985.
We had some great times in the car - selling brings back some terrible memories.Richard. Rbzz,Sorry about the Chev/Ford mix up; it is about as bad a reference as calling your Porsche a Volkswagen. Without the Banks engine chip and transmission chip, I feel about the same as you do and agree with most of what you have said.Where abouts are you located? What model Porsche?
I used to race (Autocross) my Porsche 1959 'A' Coupe while a member of the PCA - Golden Gate Chapter San Francisco. Dropped out of the Club in 1966 when my job was taking me throughout the US for months on end. The car was still Concourse show able (including original bumpers) and was the only one still around that had the factory chrome Knock-Off spinner hubs when I sold it in 1985.
We had some great times in the car - selling brings back some terrible memories.Richard. Location is Kansas City, Mo. The current of three is a 944S2 which I have rebuilt.
Engine, suspension, interior, paint, sparco seats, mono wheel, two sets of wheels, three times what it's worth!!! Have only tracked it at Hallett and Heartland Park. Bought it in 2002 in Clovis, NM and have put 9000 miles on the odometer over the last 7 years.very practical purchase! Porsche only produced this model in 1989, 1990,1991 with 2068 sent to the US.but it's still a water-cooled, red headed, stepchild of the family.
Twenty years old, handles great, and still will run 149 mph, and I like looking at it. I still belong to the Porsche Club, but not very active socially, autocross / track days / a couple car shows.that's it. Everytime I get rid of one Porsche another seems to find me.I'm surprised you haven't recovered one! There are Porsches and then all other cars.